Hello, dear, friends, as promised Kaje is giving us an interview about her newest story, Changes Coming Down, featured in the free anthology Hiding Under Covers.
Hello, Kaje, welcome to my little shell. Thank you for being here.
Kaje: Thanks for inviting me over.
You wrote a wonderful story for the Hunting Under Covers anthology. I’m pretty sure if it weren’t for you, most people wouldn’t have heard of our anthology so quickly or been as keen to read it. You’re a very prolific author and your stories are superb. This time, you wrote an M/M/M, your very first published gay ménage, in fact. What inspired you to write the story? Did you intend for it to be a ménage story from the beginning or did it just turn out this way?
Kaje: Thanks for the kind words – doing Hunting Under Covers was a lot of fun. I admire Katie, for whom the book was a gift, and made friends in the project group, so I enjoyed the whole thing.
I didn’t go into the project with expectations. Basically, Marc roped me in. He said, “Come see this anthology we’re doing, trying to get in all the Scavenger Hunt Points in one book. Maybe you could write something.” I was fairly late to the project, and they needed more stories, so I just asked what points hadn’t been covered yet. I got a list, which included the major themes of “Sports”, “Law Enforcement” and “Cowboys”, all of which had to actively involve the MCs to count. Since I love a challenge, and it wasn’t clear anyone else was joining in, I said I’d do all three. (It turned out there was another Law Enforcement story, but not before I was deep into my own.)
So the menage aspect arose out of not wanting to double up two major professions in one MC. But I’d also been thinking about trying M/M/M for a while. There’s a challenge to making readers believe that a three-way relationship is strong enough, and necessary enough, to work better than any two of the guys alone. This gave me a good excuse to try menage. Changes Coming Down was the result.
I love the fact that you didn’t put your characters though unnecessary drama, as most ménage stories are about the emotional implications of settling into a polyamorous relationship. Changes Coming Down concentrated on coming out of the closet and facing the consequences of being both gay and in a relationship with two persons instead of one. All your characters risked losing something as a result of coming out and they all showed moments of weakness throughout the story. Who do you think is the most vulnerable of them and why did you choose him in particular?
Kaje: Wow, tough call. All of the guys are vulnerable in different ways. Will is faced with losing the only home and family he’s had since he was seventeen. Casey is a cop, whose job has been his life – now that part of who he is may be about to come tumbling down. And Scott is headed for a spot on an NHL hockey team, where there are no out gay players yet. This is his lifelong dream, and his father’s, and with competition excruciatingly fierce, he can’t afford any disadvantage.
But if I had to guess, I’d say Casey is most vulnerable. Scott is the strongest inside, I think. He’s the one who will survive whatever he has to. Will is loneliest, but he also has lived that way a long time, and made it through. Casey is the one who’s been a Marine and a cop, a take-charge guy who had all the authority and the answers. Losing that is a big dark hole under his feet.
The way the story worked out took some turns that I wasn’t expecting, and that didn’t satisfy my wishes for the main characters to have all the happiness and justice they deserved. I’d have liked to see the good guys properly rewarded and the bad guys all punished. Is it hard making these kinds of decisions between giving the readers what they want and giving them what you know is best from a writer’s perspective?
Kaje: One of the most important things I strive for in my writing is for the stories to feel real. Even when I’m writing sorcerers, or mafia with plane crashes, I want that edge of underlying belief. And part of that is that life doesn’t always work out neatly and perfectly. Sometimes you have to settle for good enough.
Readers do occasionally grumble that I do more Happy For Now, than Happy Ever After endings. In my books, the homophobic supervisor doesn’t always get fired. The bullet wound leaves weakness and not just an attractive scar. For me, that’s part of how I choose to write. So in this story, I did consciously avoid the fairytale ending. I gave the guys a happy conclusion that was imperfect. But hopefully it felt real. (And those HFN endings have the bonus of opening up sequel potential 🙂 )
Okay, I’m sure you’ve been asked this many times, but I’m also convinced no one will stop asking you for the simple reason that you’re a living miracle: how do you manage to write such long stories in such a short amount of time? Do you organize your schedule in a certain way or just close yourself between four walls and cross your fingers that no one will bother you until you type “the end”?
Kaje: LOL. I’m fortunate enough to work my day job part-time. My older kid is now off at college, and my younger is very independent. Although I have a lot of other family duties, I still get more writing time than many authors. My husband is patient and supportive.
And then, my stories seem to write themselves in the back of my mind when I’m doing other things (like driving, which occasionally is not the best thing. “How did I end up at the supermarket? I was trying to drive to the library.”) So when I sit down to type, the words come out about as fast as my eight-finger typing method allows. The slowest part of a first draft is researching the little points. (Like, would an experienced rancher say “a two-thousand pound Angus bull” or “a twenty-five-hundred pound Angus bull”? That takes a quick search for the average weight of Black Angus cattle. Thank heavens for the Internet.)
I’ve learned to power through a first draft, and not go back to edit. For me, that’s vital, because if I start tweaking the beginning, it will never end. So I write a fast first draft. I don’t plot or plan ahead, or do all the advance prep work, (like character sheets), that some organized writers do. I have the idea of a guy or two, or three, and a scene, and I sit down and start writing.
I know there are still a lot of things that readers would love to explore about your characters. Casey has a lot of unresolved issues with his father.
Scott came out on TV
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Plus the way the three men met is only briefly discussed in the book since it’s not the subject of the plot. So you plan on writing a prequel? Sequel? Both?
Kaje: I admit, I’d love to do both. I made them an established trio, because I thought that might make it easier for the story to stay short. (You can see how well that worked.) But I do have the image of their first night together stuck in my head. And then yes, that is a HFN ending. The daunting part about a sequel would be all the research about pro Hockey. But maybe.
Tell us what other projects are you working on right now and where can readers find you.
I’m doing sequels – “The Family We Make”, a sequel to my Holiday freebie (although if it becomes a novel, it won’t be free. My husband put his foot down on that one LOL.) Also Hidden Wolves 3is done in first draft, with my cross-dressing werewolf. I’m polishing that to submit it. And The Rebuilding Year 2 is about a third written.
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Finally, could you, please, show us some inspirational pictures of Casey, Will and Scott?
Kaje: I don’t use pictures, and in fact often don’t have good visuals of my guys when I write. I keep index cards to remind me of their eye color LOL. For me, the characters are a gestalt that is much more about who they are inside than how they look. Readers are welcome to hunt down likely pictures though. I’ll enjoy looking at them. 🙂
Thank you so much for your presence on my blog. I wish you the best with all your future projects and hope to ‘see’ you here again.